Comments for River News http://www.spokaneriver.net Spokane River News Sat, 25 Feb 2012 05:09:19 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 Comment on Salmon regaining place in tribe’s culture by Noah Ullah http://www.spokaneriver.net/?p=85&cpage=1#comment-484 Noah Ullah Sat, 25 Feb 2012 05:09:19 +0000 http://spokaneriver.net/blog/?p=85#comment-484 What a beautiful place at little falls dam. We caught 2 massive rainbows today. Air, water, earth, fire was perfect. Aweome to fish were my wife and childrens people fished.... What a beautiful place at little falls dam. We caught 2 massive rainbows today. Air, water, earth, fire was perfect. Aweome to fish were my wife and childrens people fished….

]]> Comment on Meet Me at the River by The long river | Center for Justice http://www.spokaneriver.net/?page_id=307&cpage=1#comment-472 The long river | Center for Justice Tue, 17 Aug 2010 03:16:37 +0000 http://66.147.242.162/~spokane4/?page_id=307#comment-472 [...] That’s what a group of us found out on Saturday as I put another notch in my belt of previously unexplored Spokane River sections that I now lay claim to. My wife Sara and I joined the Spokane River Forum for a kayak trip from the Lake Spokane boat lunch site, which is just downriver from Nine Mile Falls Dam, to Tum Tum – all part of this year’ s Meet Me at the River Raft and Kayak Passport Series. [...] [...] That’s what a group of us found out on Saturday as I put another notch in my belt of previously unexplored Spokane River sections that I now lay claim to. My wife Sara and I joined the Spokane River Forum for a kayak trip from the Lake Spokane boat lunch site, which is just downriver from Nine Mile Falls Dam, to Tum Tum – all part of this year’ s Meet Me at the River Raft and Kayak Passport Series. [...]

]]> Comment on Meet Me at the River by Spokane River chronicles | Center for Justice http://www.spokaneriver.net/?page_id=307&cpage=1#comment-471 Spokane River chronicles | Center for Justice Fri, 06 Aug 2010 21:24:39 +0000 http://66.147.242.162/~spokane4/?page_id=307#comment-471 [...] Yesterday I hosted a group of nearly 20 paddlers down the Spokane River from Upriver Dam to the heart of downtown Spokane as part of the Spokane River Forum’s “Meet Me At The River Raft and Kayak Passport Series”. [...] [...] Yesterday I hosted a group of nearly 20 paddlers down the Spokane River from Upriver Dam to the heart of downtown Spokane as part of the Spokane River Forum’s “Meet Me At The River Raft and Kayak Passport Series”. [...]

]]> Comment on Meet Me at the River by Riverkeeper’s first official river trip | Center for Justice http://www.spokaneriver.net/?page_id=307&cpage=1#comment-470 Riverkeeper’s first official river trip | Center for Justice Thu, 05 Aug 2010 19:18:58 +0000 http://66.147.242.162/~spokane4/?page_id=307#comment-470 [...] co-workers and members of the community for a kayak trip down the Spokane River as part of the Spokane River Forum’s “Meet Me At The River Raft and Kayak Passport Series”, a summer-long series of professionally guided eco-tour expeditions open to beginner and expert [...] [...] co-workers and members of the community for a kayak trip down the Spokane River as part of the Spokane River Forum’s “Meet Me At The River Raft and Kayak Passport Series”, a summer-long series of professionally guided eco-tour expeditions open to beginner and expert [...]

]]> Comment on Phosphorus ban disliked, but working to protect Spokane River by D.Lindquist http://www.spokaneriver.net/?p=278&cpage=1#comment-469 D.Lindquist Sun, 04 Apr 2010 12:26:16 +0000 http://spokaneriver.net/?p=278#comment-469 I quit swimming, eating fish,& do little to no camping since 95,in eastern Wa.I even moved to the west side of mts.The rivers seem different here,and don't smell like a sewer, like the Spokane river does.Since 2005,after surf-ing the web for the first time and reading about Freedom Marine/Ecology reach settlement.I have been doing alot of research,and self-education,to see if I can figure out how I incurred a brain Injury. It couldn't be from working at Freedom Marine,eng.,the most dangerous boat co.in WA.St.& the 6th most endangered river in the world? Between the waterfront prop owners & several known businesses,thru-out the years,that have used the river for their"waste sites" either don't give a damn, or simply don't know the truth,a-bout the spokane river.I wouldn't want to live near that river, after working at a company,that used their storm drain inside,for dumping toxic,& hazardous waste right in-to the river,for how many years?Alot!!!I would check that building,at 1220-1224 Front st.to see if the new business that moved in,might also figure out a way to dispose of(?)maybe something that has not made its way in yet? Although after seeing what I saw in the last 40 years,There isn't anything I could think of that hasn't gone in there. I also want to say that I believe it was your ecology dept. that finally popped Freedom Marine.I just cant figure out why,after all the complaints,repeated violations,& more, did it take them so long to get them,& why the wait to go back,when they were repeat violaters and where were all the others,like osha,nieh,nih,L&I?Sitting in a room some-where,thinking up all these stupid govt names,cuz I never seen or heard anything more than Ecy had that co. build them a boat to clean up their pollution and gave them a fine. What do I get for working there, a brain injury,be-cause our gov agency's were not regulating,monitering the chemicals,or did I read about small business's dont need inspections, like large corps. It was also a small com-pany that I wittnessed 3 co-workers die on the job,one of them,John Smith(good friend for years),we revived,after we found him, dead.He's a totally different person.He didn't even recognize any of us afterwards & we knew and worked with him for 10 yrs.& 2 small& very lethal fiberglass boat co.s.All I can say,is that I believe that our economy and its downfall,was a good thing,because it closed shop for alot of fiberglass boat co.s & probably saved others from the injuries,even death, because Wa. st/govt. were not around to teach me all the BS they claim they do,and any one could get a job at a boat company,without knowledge or any training,and work with very toxic & harmful chemicals on a daily basis, with no respirators,no air space,while installing canvas on the boat,while we were inside of the boat,cleaning with TOLUENE,on a daily,yearly basis,no washstation,except for the river.Howard broke any & every rule there is,while Jack ,mick & other brown-nosers knew all about the storm drain usage/pollution,fraud,sexual-harrassment,negligence and other things I didnt notice or catch onto,because if I knew then what I have learned in the past 5 yrs.,I would not have continued my employment at any of those "dirtbags company's,like I did for 30yrs. & 7 boat companys,I would not have let this happen,if I had known what an exposure was and how it was destroying me, and L&I' denying my exposure claim,and had me believe-ing that my symptoms,illnesses,etc... were not,in any way, related or connected to an exposure,so I gave up,and went to work for yet another"NIGHTMARE"boat co.and started to see that again, I was reliving that nightmare job on this side of Wa.St.& turned them in and I know It had something to do with them shutting down a couple years later.Good! a few people for 10 more years on the them,cuz them,when I thought what was maybe my first ex- posure in 20yrs,turns out to be the worst.If Im could find Toni Turner,Bill Ford,or any of the 10 people who worked there the years I did,I would ask them to join me in a class action lawsuit, against osha,because they had to have exposures,right along with me.I have every thing I need to start a suit, myself,but its been hard,with a PC that dials up and crashes.I have a new system now and I'm going to fight for my rights until I die.My Tolune exposure will/is destroy-ing my vital organs,my hearing,my glaucoma(I'm losing my eyesight,I have central nervous system damage,peripheral neuropathies,my bowel blew up in me,I have parkinsons,all of which are related to 30yrs.of exposures & working at small companys that don't care about any thing but where they can save a dollar,& dumping hazardous waste into the river, how many years,too many. That river is toxic and so are bthe waterways that it leads into,and then oregon,Idaho and Canada. It wasn't any Tribe that caused this,it was business's in and around Spokane and I know which ones, and they know they can get away with it,like they have for so many years or just maybe a few bucks will turn your heads this one time,too many times, maybe? I am so outta here. That river needs alot of TLC. Good luck! I quit swimming, eating fish,& do little to no camping since 95,in eastern Wa.I even moved to the west side of mts.The rivers seem different here,and don’t smell like a sewer, like the Spokane river does.Since 2005,after surf-ing the web for the first time and reading about Freedom Marine/Ecology reach settlement.I have been doing alot of research,and self-education,to see if I can figure out how I incurred a brain Injury. It couldn’t be from working at Freedom Marine,eng.,the most dangerous boat co.in WA.St.& the 6th most endangered river in the world? Between the waterfront prop owners & several known businesses,thru-out the years,that have used the river for their”waste sites” either don’t give a damn, or simply don’t know the truth,a-bout the spokane river.I wouldn’t want to live near that river, after working at a company,that used their storm drain inside,for dumping toxic,& hazardous waste right in-to the river,for how many years?Alot!!!I would check that building,at 1220-1224 Front st.to see if the new business that moved in,might also figure out a way to dispose of(?)maybe something that has not made its way in yet? Although after seeing what I saw in the last 40 years,There isn’t anything I could think of that hasn’t gone in there. I also want to say that I believe it was your ecology dept. that finally popped Freedom Marine.I just cant figure out why,after all the complaints,repeated violations,& more, did it take them so long to get them,& why the wait to go back,when they were repeat violaters and where were all the others,like osha,nieh,nih,L&I?Sitting in a room some-where,thinking up all these stupid govt names,cuz I never seen or heard anything more than Ecy had that co. build them a boat to clean up their pollution and gave them a fine. What do I get for working there, a brain injury,be-cause our gov agency’s were not regulating,monitering the chemicals,or did I read about small business’s dont need inspections, like large corps. It was also a small com-pany that I wittnessed 3 co-workers die on the job,one of them,John Smith(good friend for years),we revived,after we found him, dead.He’s a totally different person.He didn’t even recognize any of us afterwards & we knew and worked with him for 10 yrs.& 2 small& very lethal fiberglass boat co.s.All I can say,is that I believe that our economy and its downfall,was a good thing,because it closed shop for alot of fiberglass boat co.s & probably saved others from the injuries,even death, because Wa. st/govt. were not around to teach me all the BS they claim they do,and any one could get a job at a boat company,without knowledge or any training,and work with very toxic & harmful chemicals on a daily basis, with no respirators,no air space,while installing canvas on the boat,while we were inside of the boat,cleaning with TOLUENE,on a daily,yearly basis,no washstation,except for the river.Howard broke any & every rule there is,while Jack ,mick & other brown-nosers knew all about the storm drain usage/pollution,fraud,sexual-harrassment,negligence and other things I didnt notice or catch onto,because if I knew then what I have learned in the past 5 yrs.,I would not have continued my employment at any of those “dirtbags company’s,like I did for 30yrs. & 7 boat companys,I would not have let this happen,if I had known what an exposure was and how it was destroying me, and L&I’ denying my exposure claim,and had me believe-ing that my symptoms,illnesses,etc… were not,in any way, related or connected to an exposure,so I gave up,and went to work for yet another”NIGHTMARE”boat co.and started to see that again, I was reliving that nightmare job on this side of Wa.St.& turned them in and I know It had something to do with them shutting down a couple years later.Good! a few people for 10 more years on the them,cuz them,when I thought what was maybe my first ex- posure in 20yrs,turns out to be the worst.If Im could find Toni Turner,Bill Ford,or any of the 10 people who worked there the years I did,I would ask them to join me in a class action lawsuit, against osha,because they had to have exposures,right along with me.I have every thing I need to start a suit, myself,but its been hard,with a PC that dials up and crashes.I have a new system now and I’m going to fight for my rights until I die.My Tolune exposure will/is destroy-ing my vital organs,my hearing,my glaucoma(I’m losing my eyesight,I have central nervous system damage,peripheral neuropathies,my bowel blew up in me,I have parkinsons,all of which are related to 30yrs.of exposures & working at small companys that don’t care about any thing but where they can save a dollar,& dumping hazardous waste into the river, how many years,too many. That river is toxic and so are bthe waterways that it leads into,and then oregon,Idaho and Canada. It wasn’t any Tribe that caused this,it was business’s in and around Spokane and I know which ones, and they know they can get away with it,like they have for so many years or just maybe a few bucks will turn your heads this one time,too many times, maybe? I am so outta here. That river needs alot of TLC. Good luck!

]]> Comment on New Gonzaga Environmental Law Clinic to Support Spokane River Keepers by Debbie Lindquist http://www.spokaneriver.net/?p=1002&cpage=1#comment-468 Debbie Lindquist Mon, 22 Mar 2010 10:35:56 +0000 http://www.spokaneriver.net/?p=1002#comment-468 Its great that people want to put an effert into the Spokane river and all, but do they really know what they're getting themselves in to? Then there is gonzaga, which is directly across the river, from one of the many toxic & hazardous dump sites in & around Wa.st.(aprox 1980-2005)that finally got popped for yet, another repeated vio-lation,involving that old bldg and the storm drain,& again tests showed styrene, amungst other hazardous wastes were again going into the river by way of that handy old storm drain. I suppose the cleanup was alot cheaper to do it that way, instead of the right way.Question is, how many years was that storm drain used before anything was done, or even noticed??? And were other govt.agencys notified-ike Osha,and all those nih,wisha,L&I,niosh,niehs,osh? Not that I have seen or Maybe they were too busy making up all their stupid little names that were not around when I was building boats, or offering us any classes,or education, muchless safety items, like respirators,wash stations,etc so they don't mean sqwat to me. I'd never heard of most of them until I began researching and educating myself on this matter and learned how I managed to get a brain injury, along with all the illnesses that destroy all your vital organs,& make your life a painful,devastating mess and it doesn't happen overnight, especially when you're not aware that you've been or are even having an exposure how could you know, if you were never informed or educated about what an exposure is? With all the polluters out there,and theSpokane river is allready the 6th most endangered river in the world, with allthe waterways meeting each other, into Oregon, Idaho, and Canada, and weve got Hanford, remember. No body seems to take this very serious,but I think its a little bit late to help.Man is and will continue to destroy his own soil until he's destroyed it and anything in his way. Good luck,world.I wont be here to see it.And thats what I got in return for working and living in wa.st. If I knew then what I know now,right??? Its great that people want to put an effert into the Spokane river and all, but do they really know what they’re getting themselves in to? Then there is gonzaga, which is directly across the river, from one of the many toxic & hazardous dump sites in & around Wa.st.(aprox 1980-2005)that finally got popped for yet, another repeated vio-lation,involving that old bldg and the storm drain,& again tests showed styrene, amungst other hazardous wastes were again going into the river by way of that handy old storm drain. I suppose the cleanup was alot cheaper to do it that way, instead of the right way.Question is, how many years was that storm drain used before anything was done, or even noticed??? And were other govt.agencys notified-ike Osha,and all those nih,wisha,L&I,niosh,niehs,osh? Not that I have seen or Maybe they were too busy making up all their stupid little names that were not around when I was building boats, or offering us any classes,or education, muchless safety items, like respirators,wash stations,etc so they don’t mean sqwat to me. I’d never heard of most of them until I began researching and educating myself on this matter and learned how I managed to get a brain injury, along with all the illnesses that destroy all your vital organs,& make your life a painful,devastating mess and it doesn’t happen overnight, especially when you’re not aware that you’ve been or are even having an exposure how could you know, if you were never informed or educated about what an exposure is? With all the polluters out there,and theSpokane river is allready the 6th most endangered river in the world, with allthe waterways meeting each other, into Oregon, Idaho, and Canada, and weve got Hanford, remember. No body seems to take this very serious,but I think its a little bit late to help.Man is and will continue to destroy his own soil until he’s destroyed it and anything in his way. Good luck,world.I wont be here to see it.And thats what I got in return for working and living in wa.st. If I knew then what I know now,right???

]]> Comment on Phosphorus ban disliked, but working to protect Spokane River by Kris http://www.spokaneriver.net/?p=278&cpage=1#comment-452 Kris Mon, 19 Oct 2009 22:29:09 +0000 http://spokaneriver.net/?p=278#comment-452 The algea doesn't decrease the oxygen in the water, but the bacteria that eats the biomass (after the algea dies) does. When 700 pounds of algea die, all the bacteria decomposing it use the dissolved oxygen in the water to do so. With huge algal blooms, the oxygen requirement for the bacteria consuming the algea is so high that they use all available oxygen, leaving none for any other living thing in the river. No oxygen = eveything dead. The algea doesn’t decrease the oxygen in the water, but the bacteria that eats the biomass (after the algea dies) does. When 700 pounds of algea die, all the bacteria decomposing it use the dissolved oxygen in the water to do so. With huge algal blooms, the oxygen requirement for the bacteria consuming the algea is so high that they use all available oxygen, leaving none for any other living thing in the river. No oxygen = eveything dead.

]]> Comment on Phosphorus ban disliked, but working to protect Spokane River by Brittany http://www.spokaneriver.net/?p=278&cpage=1#comment-432 Brittany Thu, 01 Oct 2009 04:47:49 +0000 http://spokaneriver.net/?p=278#comment-432 I myself am confused with that statement. Algae, being a plant, should emmit oxygen, shouldn't that add to the oxygen content in the water? The only explanation I can come up with, would be an increase in organisms that feed off algae, but take in oxygen. So with the increase of algae, it would attract these organisms, and then perhaps they would be the cause of the oxygen depletion. But, if these organisms were something like Daphnia or Gammarus, then they would provide food for the fish, and attract more fish, then the Daphnia or Gammarus would be consumed, and the oxygen levels should remain stable... I myself am confused with that statement. Algae, being a plant, should emmit oxygen, shouldn’t that add to the oxygen content in the water?

The only explanation I can come up with, would be an increase in organisms that feed off algae, but take in oxygen. So with the increase of algae, it would attract these organisms, and then perhaps they would be the cause of the oxygen depletion. But, if these organisms were something like Daphnia or Gammarus, then they would provide food for the fish, and attract more fish, then the Daphnia or Gammarus would be consumed, and the oxygen levels should remain stable…

]]> Comment on Phosphorus ban disliked, but working to protect Spokane River by Andrew http://www.spokaneriver.net/?p=278&cpage=1#comment-429 Andrew Wed, 16 Sep 2009 23:49:42 +0000 http://spokaneriver.net/?p=278#comment-429 "one pound of phosphorus—essentially a fertilizer when in water—can grow 700 pounds of algae, which in turn reduces oxygen in rivers and lakes and damages fish populations" um, excuse me, but if phosphorus is a fertilizer, that means algae is a plant, right? Plants take in carbon dioxide and release oxygen don't they? so how does more algae REDUCE the oxygen in the water. I'm a little confused on the basis for this statement. “one pound of phosphorus—essentially a fertilizer when in water—can grow 700 pounds of algae, which in turn reduces oxygen in rivers and lakes and damages fish populations”

um, excuse me, but if phosphorus is a fertilizer, that means algae is a plant, right? Plants take in carbon dioxide and release oxygen don’t they? so how does more algae REDUCE the oxygen in the water.

I’m a little confused on the basis for this statement.

]]> Comment on Airway Heights OKs water restrictions by jessica http://www.spokaneriver.net/?p=135&cpage=1#comment-421 jessica Wed, 17 Jun 2009 15:13:40 +0000 http://spokaneriver.net/?p=135#comment-421 How will this play out with residents like the repercussions? I was reading an article that stated restrictions like no car wash after a time, no bird baths, no lawn watering and I bumped into a solution for car wash. Has anyone ever head of a <a href="http://www.rejuvenateauto.com/car-wash-waterless.php" rel="nofollow">waterless car wash</a>? How will this play out with residents like the repercussions? I was reading an article that stated restrictions like no car wash after a time, no bird baths, no lawn watering and I bumped into a solution for car wash. Has anyone ever head of a waterless car wash?

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